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EAST LOS ANGELES COLLEGE
Educational Plan Subcommittee Minutes
 Tuesday, February 15, 2005


 

PRESENT Karen Daar Evelyn Escatiola,   
Kerrin McMahan Al Rios
Suzette Morales-Guerra David Beaulieu
Richard Moyer Debby Anderson
Daniel Ornelas Renee Martinez
Ran Gust Dan Frise
Rob West Brenda Baity
Cathleen Rozadilla Hiroko Furuyama
Oscar Valeriano Dean Athans
 

I. CALL THE MEETING TO ORDER
     The meeting was called to order at 2:05 p.m.


II. APPROVAL OF MINUTES:
 
    M/S/P (Athans/Beaulieu) to approve the minutes of the May 18, 2004 meeting with two changes—Item #2 correct the name GOTT and item #4 S. Morales-Guerra stated that it would cost $45,000 to implement On-line Orientation on campus.

III. ROLE AND STRUCTURE OF EPSC:
K. Daar distributed a first draft of the Educational Plan Subcommittee flowchart indicating a need for greater connectivity among EPSC, the Technology Plan Committee and the Facilities Committee. EPSC will be the main advisory committee to EBPAC regarding educational issues. Other educational-related campus committees and ad hoc groups will report to EPSC. Areas in need of greater shared-governance representation were identified.

  1. D. Anderson suggested that the flowchart also incorporate Program Review and contract education. The committee agreed that these areas are represented enough in the realms in which they exist currently.
  2. R. West suggested that the flowchart also incorporate Articulation. The committee decided that since the Articulation Officer must sit on the Curriculum Committee and Transfer Committee, Articulation was already represented.
  3. D. Beaulieu suggested that the distributed schematic looked hierarchical. The committee agreed that the schematic must be viewed as a flexible document and many of the areas can overlap others.
  4. D. Beaulieu stated that Off-Site is its own committee and reports directly to EBPAC, primarily about real estate issues, but not exclusively. K. Daar clarified that off-site educational issues need to be addressed at the EPSC.
  5. R. Moyer stated that Accreditation-mandated Student Learning Outcomes will need to be reflected in syllabi and perhaps even the course outlines. B. Baity emphasized that SLOs need to be measured and that we need to show that we are successful in teaching our students--this should be the driving force in establishing SLOs, and not just to meet Accreditation standards when ELAC comes up for review in 2009. B. Baity also reported that a mid-year report needs to be sent to Accreditation, and progress on developing SLOs should be mentioned in this report as well.
  6. K. Daar ended the discussion on the Role and Structure of EPSC by requesting that committee members inform her of any developments, concerns, etc. through e-mail and voicemail so as to devote limited committee time to pressing matters.
IV. REMEDIATION:
K. Daar expressed that there is little connection between the basic skills Math, English, non-credit, and counseling areas and suggested that a committee needs to be formed to look at remediation more holistically to offer to students as a package. She stated that the Senate created an advisory committee to look at remediation, yet a shared governance group needs to also be created to report back to EPSC. She requested someone to spearhead the forming of the committee, but emphasized that the Chair of the committee needs to be someone directly involved in remediation issues. D. Beaulieu and K. Daar will start the committee and find an appropriate discipline member to continue to chair the committee.
  1. D. Beaulieu reported that District Presidents, Vice-Presidents and Academic Senate Presidents are meeting March 11 to discuss the TRUCCS study and how to deal with remediation as a District.
  2. R. Moyer stated that a culture of “referring” needs to be established on the campus. Remediation also needs to be sophisticatedly marketed to students so they may view remediation as a true benefit for their education.
  3. K. Daar reminded the committee that the Senate is currently investigating adding English advisories to transfer-level courses.
  4. O. Valeriano stated that many of our students at Southgate are struggling with a language barrier and are of a culture of not planning for classes; many may take the Assessment test, but do not pre-register. Although they show up to the campus on the first day of classes, remedial courses (such as English 21) are already cancelled due to lack of enrollment. He recommended that some Basic Skills faculty be available “on hold” for possible last-minute teaching assignments.
  5. D. Beaulieu stated that pre-English 21 classes are needed.
  6. K. Daar suggested that more counselors need to be involved in remediation concerns. D. Ornelas will bring EPSC remediation concerns to the next Counseling Department meeting next week.

V STUDENT PREPARATION:
    K. Daar distributed course outlines for two new corequisite courses (one through Personal Development and the other through Education) taught at City. She will also request a copy of the outline for a new PD course at Pierce College called “College Success Seminar”.

  1. C. Rozadilla will find out if there are UC transferable PD courses that may attract students. She also stated that a PD committee (through the Counseling Department) has been formed to revise current course outlines and to look at other PD courses throughout the District.
  2. K. Daar suggested that perhaps Basic Skill courses and PD courses should be packaged together.
  3. R. Moyer ensured that PD courses will be offered if there are students to take them, and recommended that the college needs to strategize on how to market and advertise PD courses.
  4. D. Ornelas will bring the distributed courses to the attention of the Counseling Department.
  5. D. Beaulieu expressed concern that PD courses can only be offered as a counselor’s hourly assignment.
  6. The committee discussed the possibility of other disciplines offering comparable courses.

VI. QUALITY OF EDUCATIONAL PRODUCT:
Assessment and Online Orientation

  1. S. Morales stated that Pierce has online orientation based on Miramar College’s example. She is interested in waiting to see Pierce’s success rates before recommending online orientation for ELAC. She stated that the Matriculation Budget is limited, and for now matriculation money would better be used for other purposes.
  2. K. McMahan stated that online orientation would be beneficial for Distance Education students.
  3. D. Beaulieu stated that if students have online assessment, they may “stick around” for online orientation.
  4. C. Rozadilla stated that students could benefit from greater flexibility in times to be assessed, like on a Saturday, for example. The more people assessed, the greater the enrollment.
  5. R. Martinez stated that Fullerton College and West L.A. are currently doing online assessing.
  6. K. Daar suggested that online assessment should go back to the new committee that she and D. Beaulieu will form.
  7. R. Martinez stated that more people are needed for Information Technology to make our college more technologically friendly. ELAC currently has the greatest number of computers in the District and the least number of technicians. In contrast, Harbor has a third of ELAC’s computers, yet more technicians. Classified technicians and a manager need to be hired.
  8. D. Beaulieu stated that a motion recommending funding for more technicians be given to EBPAC.
  9. K. Daar recommended that research be conducted to validate the request to EBPAC. The EPSC will make a formal request to the Technology Plan Committee to provide the EPSC with this information so that a formal recommendation by the EPSC can be made to EBPAC.
  10. S. Morales will forward to K. Daar a copy of Math and English Assessment Instruments used at various colleges for distribution to the EPSC.
VII. ADJOURNMENT: The meeting was adjourned at 3:30 p.m.
Respectfully Submitted,
Karen Daar
EPSC Co-chair

 
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