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EAST LOS ANGELES COLLEGE
Educational Plan Subcommittee Minutes
 Tuesday, March 15, 2005


 

PRESENT Karen Daar Al Rios
Anthony Samad David Beaulieu
Suzette Morales Debby Anderson
Richard Moyer Renee Martinez
Daniel Ornelas Dan Frise
Ran Gust Laura E. Ramirez
Maria Elena Yepes Hiroko Furuyama
Cathleen Rozadilla Dean Athans
Shelia Goldstein
 

I. CALL THE MEETING TO ORDER
     The meeting was called to order at 2:05 p.m.


II. APPROVAL OF MINUTES:
 
    M/S/P (Unanimous vote to approve the minutes of the February 15, 2005 meeting with one change—IV, b change “referring” to “referral”

III. ROLE AND STRUCTURE OF EPSC: K. Daar distributed a second draft of the Educational Plan Subcommittee flowchart incorporating comments from the previous meeting.

IV. REMEDIATION: K. Daar reported that the English and non-credit departments have responded positively to sending representatives to be a part of a remediation committee. However, the Math department has not yet indicated that it will participate. D. Beaulieu reported on the District meeting with district leaders, college presidents, vice-presidents and Academic Senate presidents with Linda Hagedorn (TRUCCS) and Sylvia Scott-Hayes about remediation. There is much interest by others in the District in approaching remediation as a District and investigating issues such as so why many male students (approximately 40%) in the District do not progress. The DAS will work with administrators to set up a taskforce on remediation. D. Beaulieu further stated that the creation of a District committee should not preclude our efforts to create a committee at East to strive for parallel efforts. D. Beaulieu and K. Daar will continue to organize a remediation committee on campus. K. Daar also distributed to the committee different assessment instruments for Math and English, supplied by S. Morales.

  1. R. Moyer stated that speakers at the District meeting emphasized how important it is to have signposts along the way to mark a student’s progress, and he reminded the committee that the District previously promised money for an audit system--a valuable tool which has since had the kibosh placed on it. He suggested that it could be resurrected quickly. R. Moyer also suggested the committee investigate Pierce College’s automated orientation and to incorporate into English course syllabi writing assignments requiring students to visit and write about counseling, financial aid, etc. to further educate students about ELAC. R. Moyer also stated that the District’s remediation meeting turned to the nation-wide problem of a widening discrepancy between male and female enrollments. At ELAC, for example, there are two females to each male enrolled (at Southwest, 83% of its enrollment are females). R. Moyer suggested creating syllabi that may appeal to more males.
  2. D. Beaulieu reported that the TRUCCS survey of 5000 students, approximately 2400 plus women and 1600 plus men, not only showed the gender discrepancy in enrollment, but also in performance. After four years of continued enrollment within the District, 34% of women and 43% of the men have made very little apparent progress. Although East’s performance rates are a bit better than some other sister colleges, lack of student completion is still a significant issue.
  3. R. Martinez stated that some of Voc Ed funding, VTEA, is designated for recruitment. She continued that if ELAC had an audit program, the college would be able to increase completion rates. In the year 2000, East found that many students were eligible, or were real close to obtaining a degree. By informing students of their eligibility, perhaps by purchasing software that will automatically inform students that they are up for a degree or certificate, ELAC can increase completion numbers and gain funding from entities, like VTEA, that look for completion rates.
  4. C. Rozadilla stated that such software would be wonderful, as students coming in with other transcripts would not go through the big mystery of whether or not they are near completion at this college as that information would be readily available. She stated that Mt. Sac College even indicates eligibility for a degree or certificate directly on a student’s transcripts.
  5. R. Moyer stated that biggest problem with the audit system is not ELAC providing the material for the framework of the assessment, but rather getting an analysis of this information through an informational system. This requires the District InfoTech to address this potentially political issue. The District will say they are busy and that this endeavor is not important. R. Moyer suggested that if we find the right system, perhaps the politicians amongst us could get the District to get involved. He further informed the committee that at West Los Angeles College, ClassTrack is being piloted. The program looks over several years of class enrollments and scheduling to help with planning procedures.
  6. S. Morales offered to request for someone from West to give a demonstration of ClassTrack on this campus.
  7. D. Beaulieu stated that it would be effective if the District took the lead to better organize remediation efforts. He shared with the committee that Sylvia Scott-Hayes thinks that there is a lack of faculty buy-in for remediation, whereas faculty thinks there is a lack of administrative leadership on the issue. It would be helpful for Sylvia Scott-Hayes to know that there is a large faction of faculty on campus interested in this issue.

V STUDENT PREPARATION:
    D. Ornelas reported that 22 Personal Development courses will be offered this year (six in the summer, 7 at Southgate, 2 in career planning). Counseling will take the lead in teaching these courses. There is also interest to work with Matriculation to piggyback Personal Development courses with Basic Skills (specifically English 21). D. Ornelas also stated that the following counselors would be involved in the campus Remediation Committee: Keith Hayashi, Paulina Palomino, and himself. R. Martinez reported that the Technology Plan has not yet met to discuss creating an official proposal to EBPAC for more funding. She further reported that ELAC has hired a new provisional manager who will assist in identifying technicians’ skills and to make recommendations of what else is needed. She also reported that the District is performing another survey on all the colleges’ lab managers, computers, etc.

VI. STUDENT LEARNING OUTCOMES:
     A. Samad presented SLO implementation and task-management work plans (approximately 14-month timeline) to coordinate a campus-wide approach to SLOs, incorporating them into Program Review and preparation for Accreditation. After studying various other district strategies, noticing differing campus-wide approaches, he devised a bottom-up approach for ELAC. Tasks include developing a mission statement, educating faculty on SLOs, creating workshops to train faculty, forming an SLO committee etc. He emphasized that the college must take into consideration how measuring SLOs would differ from one department to the next.

  1. R. Moyer announced the vacancy of the Associate Dean of Research which, when filled, will work hand in hand with the development of SLOs.
  2. M. Elena-Yepes asked how listing SLOs may affect course outlines and syllabi.
  3. K. Daar responded that the course outline is a communication to the instructor of what needs to be covered in class, whereas the syllabus is a communication to the students of what they are expected to learn and be able to do once they finish the course, therefore SLOs, to her, should be placed in the instructors’ syllabi and a Department’s Program Review.
  4. R. Martinez stated that each college has different approaches--some do incorporate SLOs in their course outlines, others in Program Review, etc.
  5. D. Beaulieu stated that a distinction needs to be maintained, regarding SLOs, between the quantitative and the qualitative. He cautioned the committee of potential dissonance and faculty resistance if the college is not careful on how implementation of SLOs is presented to the faculty. If they are treated as part of Program Review, they will be viewed as a departmental collaborative. However, if they focus on class assessment, they may be construed as a part of an instructor’s evaluation.
  6. R Martinez replied that SLOs should be viewed as a part of student success.
  7. g. A. Samad emphasized that a committee should be formed and a broad discussion on SLOs is needed, perhaps on Opening Day next semester, to marginalize any potential conflict on the topic.
Meeting adjourned 3:35 p.m.
Respectfully Submitted
Karen Daar
EPSC Co-chair

 
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